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Intel to phase out XScale?

Posted by Richard Goodwin on 10:55, 25/8/2005 | , ,
 
XscaleAccording to this El Reg story: "Next year, however, Intel [will introduce] the low-power NGMA core forming the foundation for a series of SoCs that combine processing power, display control facilities and other device management features."

Now I understand about every other word there, but they go on:
"It's a move that will set Intel head-to-head with ARM, which currently provides the technology on which Intel's XScale processors are based. Indeed, Intel's goals for NGMA's performance [...] will exert downward pressure on the XScale line.

"XScale won't become redundant overnight - ARM's strength in the PDA and phone markets will see to that - but Intel's desire to establish the x86 instruction set [...] will weaken the XScale proposition over time." But it's not all bad news: "new XScales are on the way, including the gigahertz-class 'Monahans' unveiled yesterday."

Bottom line? Intel look set to drop the XScale, which are used in some recent RISC OS machines. But hopefully not yet.

Source: The Register
 

  Intel to phase out XScale?
  Revin Kevin (12:04 25/8/2005)
  rich (12:44 25/8/2005)
    Revin Kevin (19:09 25/8/2005)
      rich (21:09 25/8/2005)
        andrew (00:40 26/8/2005)
          rich (08:32 26/8/2005)
            Hertzsprung (10:53 26/8/2005)
              rich (12:59 26/8/2005)
 
Kevin Wells Message #93793, posted by Revin Kevin at 12:04, 25/8/2005
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It seems strange to me that if they were dropping the Xscale why have new Xscales?
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Richard Goodwin Message #93794, posted by rich at 12:44, 25/8/2005, in reply to message #93793
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Fire sale? :)

The new stuff won't be available until at least next year, so they've got to keep selling them for now.

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Kevin Wells Message #93795, posted by Revin Kevin at 19:09, 25/8/2005, in reply to message #93794
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Ok, but why develop the newer Xscale if they are dropping it or have I missed read it?
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Richard Goodwin Message #93796, posted by rich at 21:09, 25/8/2005, in reply to message #93795
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It's being phased out over a number of years (probably) - but until there's a working replacement (which won't be for, say, a year), and people start buying it in numbers (say two to five years), they're going to hedge their bets.

As it says in the article, ARM chips are still the dominant force in the marketplace. Until there's a possibility that'll change Intel know which side their bread is buttered - they'll sell their ARM-derived StrongARM/XScale chips. However, they don't want to be in this secondary position so they'll start to push x86 chips more and more from now on. It's the start of the slippery slope - unless this NGMA core tanks.

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Andrew Message #93797, posted by andrew at 00:40, 26/8/2005, in reply to message #93796
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Cannot Castle or whoever just use a fast ARM chip rather than depend on Intel in future machines?
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Richard Goodwin Message #93798, posted by rich at 08:32, 26/8/2005, in reply to message #93797
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I'm not completely up on hardware stuff (Jase!?!) but I don't think there's an ARM chip that's anywhere near the speed of an XScale. That's why this range exists.
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James Shaw Message #93799, posted by Hertzsprung at 10:53, 26/8/2005, in reply to message #93798
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What about this: http://eetuk.com//tech/news/OEG20021017S0021 ?
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Richard Goodwin Message #93800, posted by rich at 12:59, 26/8/2005, in reply to message #93799
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See what I mean? ;)
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